In today’s episode Ben & I talk to Drake Chavão Lundstrom about talking…about the environment…with people. Believe it or not peoples biases make it difficult to have reasoned conversations about this topic. Drake is gonna try and help us get a handle on it.

The links:

• Drake helps do research @ Freedom Toons. Check em out!

• Merchants Of Despair – Robert Zubrin

• The Moral Case For Fossil Fuels – Alex Epstein

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